Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Are you kidding me?!

So, umm, yeah, if you've been in the Etsy forums lately it seems that everyone who asks for category changes get them lickety split, but there is STILL no top level doll and miniature categories on Etsy. Sure, there's "doll" and "miniature" under "Toys", but for a site that has "Geekery" as a top level category, there is something to be said for the argument that Dolls and Miniatures deserve a top level category, too. And dividing "Plants and Edibles" is probably another change that should be done.

Oh and by the way, if you sell vintage/antiques, be sure to alter your tags to fit the new subcategories that have been added.

Which reminds me, category changes should be announced to every member! Dawanda recently re-did their category structure and they sent an email outlining it and how to accomodate it to every seller. These are important changes and should not be done lightly or on a whim, it's how the whole mess the structure is in became this way in the first place!

I agree that the recent changes to the Vintage category are warranted and beneficial, but what about those that have been asking for a category for more than 2 years? Oh, wait, they're not allowed to talk about that anymore.

15 Comments:

Andy Mathis said...

the vintage sellers are going to get flag-itis of the fingers because they will be flagging everything.

I don't see why it's such a big deal, anything over 20 years is considered vintage and is allowed. What if no one is sure of the dates? no worries, just stick it in all 3 sub-categories.

If I were selling true antiques, I would list them on sites where the antique buyers shop.

life-during-wartime said...

So, Etsy is adding a buttload of new antique related categories (or sub categories) while the handmade sellers are still asking, pleading, and waiting waiting waiting for the basic separate categories they need for their craft to be visible?

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Andy Mathis said...
If I were selling true antiques, I would list them on sites where the antique buyers shop.

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Word. And at least in my part of the Eastern US, the last thing a serious antique show or group shop allows anywhere is, ahem, crafts. Because a huge factor in any collectible old thing (even if it's less than 50 years old) is that it is all original and has not been altered in any fashion. The altered vintage or antique is pretty much a staple now on Etsy. Serious buyers no like altered.

Besides, the concept of 'antique' being a kind of subheading under 'vintage' is awesomely laughable. As is the sight of Etsy adminimorons scrambling to pacify the wailing keyboards of the jumped-up flea market contingent on the forums.

Well, looks like the reselling tail wags the Etsy dog.

The Funny One said...

This just confirms that Etsy still hasn't jumped into the "real" business world because most of their decisions and "projects" are entirely personal, rarely done for the sellers' benefit.

And Etsy is back to its old habits, with several Admins posting confusing and wrong info in the forums because they just can't help themselves. They have to chime in, the hell with what sellers think.

I'm with andy mathis on selling antiques and many other items that have been added to the Etsy soup on sites well known for those kinds of goods including used books, used CD's, used vinyl records, and the list goes on.

BTW, ALL those other sites have finalized their holiday plans, and Etsy has faked another "we're working on it". They might get around to it on January 5th..........NEXT year. Bad habits die hard at Etsy.

Eveline said...

This is what Etsy keeps doing. Keeping the masses happy with a vacation mode (which yes, has been asked for for a long time) but completely ignoring other people who have been nothing but polite in voicing their request.

crabby said...

I think they perceive dolls and miniatures as not "cool" enough to warrant their own category.

Impetuous said...

Etsy has no idea what any category, aside from cupcakes, requires. They can't make the categories for dolls or miniatures or fine art because they have absolutely no idea what difference the right terms make to potential buyers. Each major category requires a knowledgeable person to oversea it. Taking polls in the forums is no way to run a site of Etsy's size.

eveline said...
"This is what Etsy keeps doing. Keeping the masses happy with a vacation mode (which yes, has been asked for for a long time) but completely ignoring other people who have been nothing but polite in voicing their request."
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This "Vacation Mode" sucks balls. It works like a light switch with, as usual, no customizable gray area. Way more effort was put into the voting tool and as far as I can see that was never asked for nor desperately needed. Jared is wickedly talented but, as usual, mismanaged and under utilized.
Rainbow Mandala. Need I say more?

Ladies Auxilliary said...

Yup, I got my notification from Dawanda. They're good with the communication at Dawanda, and I really appreciate it.

And: there are lots of cool dolls and miniatures out there. Silly Etsy.

GOLDEN UNICORN MINIATURES said...

Dear Etsy,

Today is my birthday and also the birthday of a fellow DAM, Loopyboopy, who is an Art Doll artist. Do you know what an awesome bd gift for both of us would be?? A Dolls & Miniatures top level category.

Thanks, EB, for continuing to support our request.

justajewelrydesigner said...

WTF did anyone want antique as a subcat?

etsy ain't the plce to list antiques IMHO....

zip said...

well, I really hate to say it, but when DAM catagories appear, the subs will be so screwed up, won't relate to the catagory, and another couple years of heartache will ensue.

Beequeen said...

I really wonder if having a DAM category will make things better for those artists because the search is still screwed up.

Oh, and there are tons of cool miniatures and dolls. Collectors are very often people with alot of disposable income. ebay recognizes this fact, which is why they have a special category for them. Admin just have their heads so far up their own asses that they fail to recognize this.

GOLDEN UNICORN MINIATURES said...

zip said...
well, I really hate to say it, but when DAM catagories appear, the subs will be so screwed up, won't relate to the catagory, and another couple years of heartache will ensue.
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We DAMs worked on our category along with its subcategories and sub-subcategories. We were all in total agreement with what we put in our petition, and it's the same thing we presented to Etsy.

If the subs are screwed it will be Etsy's fault because, without asking us/informing us, the subs would be different than what we asked for and proposed and presented. Guaranteedd if it is different than what is in the petition we DAMs will demand to know whym, and we shall let Etsy know we're angry and will not hold anything back when telling them.

bastet2329 said...

if you sell dolls and miniatures do not use etsy.

BEST MOVE i made was going back to ebay. yeah there are fees but BUYERS can find what they want. AMAZING! and the new 30 day fixed price feature rocks. i love it.

i am ready for the holiday season, Ebay store is stocked, making sales. Thats what its about- none of the etsy hokey pokey crap.

Beequeen said...

Yep, I never left ebay...but I do have friends with shops there and it really chaps my hyde to see them ignored over and over again. It is seeing that kind of attitude from admin that sealed the deal for me: I will NEVER open a shop there. I read somewhere that someone asked for beads under the polymer clay category and BAM, it was done, that day. Etsy: the land of millions of beads....and no miniatures or dolls (no offense to bead makers).

bitch in training said...

is etsy actually listening? finally?

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5833208