Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Quotable Quotes: From EB comments

"I bought the Etsy seller experience and all I got was this stupid bill for relisting!"

15 Comments:

Kali said...

I honestly feel sorry for anyone and everyone who bought into Etsycorp's renewing/relisting scam. It was never worth it for me (the majority of my items are in the $5-6 range) so I never renewed anything while it was still active.

Back when the listing time went from 6 months down to 4, I said in the forums that even 4 months was too long, and I was SLAMMED for that comment. That was before renewing and relisting became the rage.

I'm in an industry where I could easily list new and different items a year - but until they get their heads out of their asses, no way.

Foxglove Studios said...

Since communication is so good at Etsy, I wonder how many people are even aware that renewing an item no longer extends it's expiration date by four months. It now changes the expiration date to four months from the renewal date. (It is very possible that I am the only one who didn't know this, actually!)

I did stop renewing June 15th and haven't had a sale since, just one trade that I initiated. LOL At least the vultures aren't getting my 20 cents!

jodie nicholson said...

Renew, renew, it's the best way to get views
So keep renewing all day long
Renew, renew renew renew!

idyll hands said...

My favorite was items that had MONTHS AND MONTHS left lost that time if renewed after they changed the system up.

I don't so much care about the change, but I do care that I have to renew and renew to keep my page fresh. However, it's where my sales come from so I'm going to keep doing it. Call me a sucker, but I'm not doing this for fun. I need to make some kind of money from it.

Ivydee said...

Wow, I knew about the relisting thing not extending over 4 months, but what I did NOT realize is that it took time AWAY. I just went to see it in action and renewed an item that should have expired in 2010 and now it will expire in 4 months.

Is that even legal? To apply a policy RETROACTIVELY? I renewed that item under the good faith that I would be extending my listing time until 2010. I PAID for that time under that policy. How can they legally revoke that time?

Ivydee said...

Wait.

Actually, it didn't take the time away, though the renew page said that it WOULD in big red letters. But I'm still listed until 2010.

??????

Usually I'm not this confused about whether I'm getting effed or not. Going to go back and try it again.

Ivydee said...

Item currently expires: 4/10/2009

Big red letters state:
Listing times will be reset for all renewed items. The new expiration date for these items will be four months from today.

New expiration date: 4/10/2009

Okay, so I guess you should ignore my previous rant. Etsy SAYS they're going to Ef me, but they don't really do it. Tease.

The Righteous One said...

"Etsy SAYS they're going to Ef me, but they don't really do it. Tease."

lol that is one of the best lines ever :)

It was my understanding that they were going to apply the renewal time period retroactively if a listing was renewed after the policy was instituted.

Which IS a big 'take it from behind' as you said.

But I guess they didn't even get THAT right lol

idyll hands said...

Huh - my time went away... it said it would and it did. Now I miss my time :(

Ivydee said...

Was it something that you listed prior to the policy change? That's the only reason I can think of why you would loose time and I wouldn't.

I don't think they can LEGALLY take my listing time away since I paid for it under the prior terms.

Ladies Auxilliary said...

Okay wait, hilariously, I somehow missed something HUGE...WTF is up with the re-listing fees?

Are y'all talking about re-listing AFTER an item has sold, or BEFORE??? I only relist items when they sell, but it sounds like people are renewing...before a sale, in order to get more exposure time?

If there's a link to this handy info I'd love to see it, because I somehow, shockingly couldn't find it on Etsy...

The Cranky One said...

They are talking about relisting BEFORE. It's a selling tactic to get your item up higher, since search doesn't work well and you can't filter it by price, date, views or anything useful. Closer tot he front, better chance of being seen before someone finds something else or shots themselves in despair.

Etsy actually encourages early relisting, and that's a fucking stunning thing.

I have enough sales that I don't relist unless it sells but some flk I've heard of have 2 years of time on some items.

If you have tie on your item, and want to relist, just list a new one and not lose your time. costs the same, not as easy but it won't kil your already paid for time.

Ladies Auxilliary said...

Damn, I didn't even know you could do that. Thanks for the fill-in, cranky.

This is how little I worry anymore about getting any of my customers through Etsy, lol, I had no idea.

Ivydee said...

Yup, its something I pretty much have to do if I want any chance at a sale in the jewelry category.

Also, I work in phases... create, photograph, list. So there are weeks where I create, weeks where I'm photographing and touching up then weeks where I list. So during those weeks I'm not listing anything new I was renewing.

I'm not doing it as much anymore as it doesn't seem to be making a difference now. It used to, but either Etsy has become oversaturated with jewelry or its the slowing economy or I just suck.

staceyjean said...

no one HAS to renew their items just to get a sale. it's a myth. you're better off listing new items and building your inventory. promote yourself outside of etsy... and save your money.

renewing is a trap. it's a lie, and etsy only encourages it because they profit from it.


i like etsy, but there are certain things that etsy allows to become "techniques" only because it benefits etsy. in the long run, it's costing you more money and less profit.

renewing is not a business savvy way to advertise yourself. $.20 for 1-5 minutes on the "front" page is not a good deal.

make a new item. use your money wisely.