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"The longer I spend in the forums among sellers that are seriously arrogant and narcissistic and think that they have the right to make everyone else in the world do what they think is fair the more and more put off I am and less I want to buy here"
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Well, someone hit the nail right on the head with that one!
I can't believe the O.P. thought she was " just asking a question " and was surprised she got flamed for it.
Judgmental much ?!!
Point to ponder .... It may help to think about how YOU would feel if someone asked that question about one of YOUR items. Would it seem like " clarification " of a rule to you ?
whoa.
I am not surprised, as one day,not long ago, there was a whole thread about flagging items if they thought shipping was too much.
Ha! And I thought no one noticed me in the forums. (That's my quote)
I was almost ready to quit Etsy, even to quit updating my blog that I started with every intention of helping small businesses succeed because of the stalking, the paranoia, the bitterness, and the sheer unmitigated narcissism that is rampant in the fora.
Then I found the place I can come to escape all that and remember WHY I wanted to help small businesses in the first place.
Thank you Etsy bitches!
The user who posted that intelligent thought is also being "stalked" on the forums.
another stalker?
I think we can officially call this an infestation.
sorry to hear that s2.
I am so sorry to anyone who is being stalked on the forums. Its really down right nasty for people to act that way.
they most definitely should hook up the forums to play mission impossible theme song when one enters the forum - With all the stalkerazzi-ering going on.
Wait, S2 has a blog? I wanna see.
It's getting to the point where even watching the drama is not nearly as entertaining as it used to be. It's tired, it's old...and if it were at least original maybe we'd have something going there.
People are just getting tired. And with the other things that I'm hearing coming down the pike...I don't blame them a damned bit.
.....................what's coming down the pike?
Sorry, shouldn't have dropped a broad hint like that...I'm going to keep that under my hat for the time being. I don't want to upset some of the people in question by saying something without their permission, know what I mean?
I'm not trying to be a tease, I swear!
oh man... that post was amazing...
That's why I stay away from site help... angry sales-less assmunches with too much free time and too much venom....
PLEH...
In the words of the great John Clark: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???
Heck, the poor seller in question is probably just trying to save up for Rokali's $10/gallon gas. Not all of us can make it on a low-paying construction job, you know!
"angry sales-less assmunches with too much free time and too much venom...."
Too true!
One would think they would eventually put two and two together and figure out that their sales may suck for a damn good reason but no...... they just keep on whining on.
It boggles me mind, it do!
It just NEVER ends! It's so disheartening. Really, if you spend enough time in the fora you'll start to feel totally beaten down by the all nonsense.
That's why I added the Etsy Bitch link on my blog ;)
What a mess of a thread. At least there wasn't much debate about the substance of the original post.
That was a great comment, s2! And I've just visited your site -- looks like Etsy would do well to pay attention to your thoughts about promotion, SEO and other subjects they just can't get right.
Your welcome S2.
I thought you summed things up perfectly.
I always wonder why Forum polluters don't notice that the people who actually sell quite a bit/make a living/make a significant part of their living on the site, aren't chillin' in the Forums...hellooooooooo.....
" seriously arrogant and narcissistic and think that they have the right to make everyone else in the world do what they think is fair "
The thing is...this actually describes a major chunk of humanity. I think etsy is merely reflective of society. When truth/right-and-wrong are deemed to be subjective, then you will have quite a few people who are convinced that their version of truth is THE version.
Selfishness and rudeness are at epidemic levels. Why would etsy be any different?
well I guess he is talking about seriously arrogant and narcissistic etsians and not all of humanity.
why do we have to bring the whole world into this?
"Selfishness and rudeness are at epidemic levels. Why would etsy be any different?"
Well, because sellers on Etsy are trying to sell their wares and make a living, for one reason. That alone should be enough to make them behave a little better than most in an effort to attract customers.
"The thing is...this actually describes a major chunk of humanity."
I agree, there's a lot of rude-ies out there, BUT, it is also clear that the anonymity offered by the internet allows people to treat others with significantly less care. Would most of the people being rude in the Forums act that way if they walked into a local coffee shop? Heck no.
I also believe that this anonymity and lack of face to face contact makes the internet a medium that is particularly welcoming to people with significant personality disturbances or with poor social skills, who might not get along well with others under other circumstances anyway (and who do not represent the general population). And again, would these people be allowed to act that way when face to face with others? No, in fact when people act like this in person, there are often consequences: arrest, restraining orders, getting fired from jobs, losing relationships with friends and loved ones because of irrational behavior...you know, consequences, limits.
People should be held to the same level of accountability on the internet that they are in face to face interactions.
And I believe that the primary responsibility for setting those limits falls to the "host" of the interaction. Etsy has the power to create a culture of mutual respect, and I wish they would, and not just seller to seller.
There are many other "Forums" on the internet where such a culture exists. I would love to see Etsy be one of them. If they have the resources to have "elves" moving threads around so efficiently, they certainly have the human resources (if not the know-how) to make this happen.
I find it entertaining that the biggest whiners of "so and so seller is doing something I think is wrong" are often the ones with the lowest sales.
Less policing everyone else, and more concentrating on your own work, first.
Not that sales mean a bigger voice, but when one has 2 sales in a year, it looks like sour grapes to go attacking the other guy because they don't do it your way.
There's a lot of immature business owners on etsy.
and some big sellers are just whiny quitters and are only posting for attention's sake
how may times can you post you are quitting or leaving
leave alreADY
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