tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post8207925071966635159..comments2023-05-31T07:37:38.948-04:00Comments on Etsy Bitch: Am I a boy or a lady, I don't know which?The Cranky Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08492132798002763761noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-75835883828717009852008-08-03T04:02:00.000-04:002008-08-03T04:02:00.000-04:00*HowlingDyingWithLaughter* now *SobbingInShame* I ...*HowlingDyingWithLaughter* <BR/><BR/>now *SobbingInShame* <BR/><BR/>I am earning that bozo how much money by keeping my shop open?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-13823238716607428862008-08-02T17:45:00.000-04:002008-08-02T17:45:00.000-04:00They're totally turning it into eBay, when Pierre ...They're totally turning it into eBay, when Pierre cashed out with billions and they begged Meg Whitman to take the rains.<BR/><BR/>Etsy is basically following the path that eBay took back in '98/'99<BR/>FranAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-91058878080572441482008-08-02T09:47:00.000-04:002008-08-02T09:47:00.000-04:00I agree, Windys, he's trying to save face.And fail...I agree, Windys, he's trying to save face.<BR/><BR/>And failing.<BR/><BR/>It must be very painful, being forced out. I know I'd be a bit defensive if I was cut out of any of the projects I've started.<BR/><BR/>But then I actually realize which areas I'm competent in and which I suck at. And I hire other (talented) people to do the things I suck at. So people don't get quite so angry at me.<BR/><BR/>And no one is going to buy me out for millions of dollars, either, sadly. *wistful grin*The Disgruntled Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12234744597622366149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-67092544810334363472008-08-02T00:16:00.000-04:002008-08-02T00:16:00.000-04:00Rob Kailin in a weirdo. They say there is this fi...Rob Kailin in a weirdo. They say there is this fine line between insanity and genius, and I think he frequently hops on either side of that line.<BR/><BR/>I mentioned a few discussions ago, that I felt there was some bad feelings on gold street and I still feel them.<BR/><BR/>He's trying to do his best to make light of it, act like it's his idea and that he has better things to work on. He's trying to save face. I think that there is seriously a lot more going on behind the scenes than we are privy to and that not everyone is happy.WindysDesignshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763465841442652702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-40007465519996126952008-08-01T23:37:00.000-04:002008-08-01T23:37:00.000-04:00Coral nail polish? "I'm not the CEO?" What the fuc...Coral nail polish? "I'm not the CEO?" What the fuck? Who thinks that way? What? <BR/><BR/>Jesus, that's the weirdest thing I've heard in a long time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-76338048337141153142008-08-01T12:56:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:56:00.000-04:00The idea that Rokali was commenting (consciously o...The idea that Rokali was commenting (consciously or not) on being replaced by a woman is a really interesting one that hadn't occured to me at all.<BR/><BR/>But it's all of a piece with the feeling I get that he doesn't really like the huge number of women sellers on Etsy. <BR/><BR/>Or maybe he's just being a passive aggressive, condescending asshole.The Disgruntled Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12234744597622366149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-55629795099418935352008-08-01T12:18:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:18:00.000-04:00Absolutely julie! We don't mind them having free t...Absolutely julie! We don't mind them having free time, just not at work...constantly<BR/><BR/>We pay them for a service with certain expected attributes based on conditions upon signing up, one that has yet to be provided in full for many customers.The Righteous Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08282022935228225565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-55454522172876606792008-08-01T12:01:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:01:00.000-04:00All these fake ID stories kinda make you wonder wh...All these fake ID stories kinda make you wonder what the statute of limitations on fraud is, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>The thing I think many of the etsy employees and Rob keep missing is - you can be 'eccentric' and 'indie' and 'hipster' and 'fun.' That's fine - but you still gotta get the job done! <BR/><BR/>I know I personally wouldn't mind the skate ramp, OR the nail polish if things like seller stats, improved search, and vacation mode had been accomplished.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18144538005482632394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-62178087853106462662008-08-01T09:18:00.000-04:002008-08-01T09:18:00.000-04:00"Does anyone see the nail polish thing as a commen..."Does anyone see the nail polish thing as a comment on his being replaced by a woman?"<BR/><BR/>Huh...now I do.<BR/><BR/>Huh...he's such an odd (and I hate to do this to ducks) duck that I never read the coral polish past him being a self imposed uber unprofessional freak.<BR/><BR/>But now that I put the whole thing into a genderific context, I guess I could see the episode as a way for Swimmy to lash out at being demoted in favour of a professonal lady.<BR/><BR/>When I don't dislike him for being such a stubborn asshat, I feel kinda bad for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-6884635922084586152008-08-01T07:38:00.000-04:002008-08-01T07:38:00.000-04:00I was trying to explain Etsy's business model to a...I was trying to explain Etsy's business model to a friend of mine today. Especially the part about getting sellers in, renewing, etc. but not doing anything to bring in more buyers.<BR/><BR/>He looks at me and says "OMG, they're the Underpants Gnomes". <BR/><BR/>If anyone has watched South Park, you'll know immediately what I mean.<BR/><BR/>Step One: Steal underpants.<BR/>Step Two: um, ...<BR/>Step Three: PROFIT!!!<BR/><BR/>I think Rob stole my underpants.Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072165656923896599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-8632617796204769822008-08-01T01:43:00.000-04:002008-08-01T01:43:00.000-04:00Sheesh, you ladies are SO obsessed with Rokali!Sheesh, you ladies are SO obsessed with Rokali!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-71989160399357335632008-08-01T01:04:00.000-04:002008-08-01T01:04:00.000-04:00Oh that is a good possibility, whatever!He could b...Oh that is a good possibility, whatever!<BR/>He could be lying about cheating, in order to cover up a different lie.<BR/>Wow I hope he has a scoreboard to keep track of these lies because I am already confused.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-39648154582215601562008-08-01T00:55:00.000-04:002008-08-01T00:55:00.000-04:00Whatever, that is a perspective of the store I had...Whatever, that is a perspective of the store I had never thought of! It makes sense....E. B. L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04744257031972981032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-20452850481474289602008-07-31T23:22:00.000-04:002008-07-31T23:22:00.000-04:00I think the stolen/forged ID story is to make hims...I think the stolen/forged ID story is to make himself seem educated. If he lied about being enrolled in college without the fake id part, someone could discover that he has no record there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-82129677338431096472008-07-31T23:15:00.000-04:002008-07-31T23:15:00.000-04:00sulking said...in one version he "borrowed" from f...sulking said...<BR/>in one version he "borrowed" from friends and attended "a few classes" and in this one he made a fake ID and studied "for a year".<BR/>....<BR/><BR/>I think these were two separate times. He made the fake ID for MIT and I think he used the "borrowed" IDs for NYU.<BR/>He says he attended 6 different schools so that could be up to 6 different kinds of lies and scams.<BR/>If he's even telling the truth about the 6 schools, that is. <BR/><BR/>I wonder if he borrowed term papers and borrowed test answers too? Or maybe he didn't even bother taking tests since none of these grades would go on his real transcript, since he was not an officially enrolled student. More like auditing a class.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-88106999349661660912008-07-31T22:12:00.000-04:002008-07-31T22:12:00.000-04:00Does anyone see the nail polish thing as a comment...Does anyone see the nail polish thing as a comment on his being replaced by a woman?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-54291458857557930932008-07-31T21:32:00.000-04:002008-07-31T21:32:00.000-04:00Has anyone checked out the most recent edition of ...Has anyone checked out the most recent edition of AdBusters?<BR/><BR/>"Hipster: The Dead End of Civilization<BR/><BR/>We’ve reached a point in our civilization where counterculture has mutated into a self-obsessed aesthetic vacuum. So while hipsterdom is the end product of all prior countercultures, it’s been stripped of its subversion and originality, and is leaving a generation pointlessly obsessing over fashion, faux individuality, cultural capital and the commodities of style."<BR/><BR/>http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79<BR/><BR/>An awesome read...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-72583779911771388262008-07-31T20:28:00.000-04:002008-07-31T20:28:00.000-04:00"so-sorry", many times the things about someone an..."so-sorry", many times the things about someone and their ideas that make someone invent something cool (like Etsy) are also the thing that make them the worst person to carry that same idea forward. So...yeah, he's been there since the beginning, and the fact that he's the "unique" silly person he is has been, in the past, a blessing...but is also now a bit of a curse...<BR/><BR/>I actually love men in nail polish...but coral...I can't handle coral...on anyone...Ladies Auxilliaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08988744862218318162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-31546840826198577872008-07-31T19:32:00.000-04:002008-07-31T19:32:00.000-04:00The major fuck-ups were happening long before the ...The major fuck-ups were happening long before the 27 million was given.<BR/>I was around for the V2 debut (debacles); Rob has been at the helm since the beginning. <BR/>He had a great idea and soon after made a colossal mess of it.<BR/><BR/>It became painfully apparent they didn't know what the hell they were doing right around the time they decided having a Labs (kiddie playhouse) was a great idea.<BR/><BR/>With each new incompetent employee they hired before Maria, their image became more tarnished. Hopefully the investors can salvage what's left from the train wreck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-72486294032956684612008-07-31T19:17:00.000-04:002008-07-31T19:17:00.000-04:00The really disturbing thing for me about the fake ...The really disturbing thing for me about the fake ID thing though is that he can't even get his story straight about it - in one version he "borrowed" from friends and attended "a few classes" and in this one he made a fake ID and studied "for a year". <BR/><BR/>It's almost like he's making it up or elaborating because he thinks somehow it makes him sound cool and indie. <BR/><BR/>Lying and stealing is NOT COOL, Rob. You don't have to go to a fancy business school and wear a tie to know that. <BR/><BR/>This is where things like "you can copy up to three items from other sellers" (a la the first draft of the constitution) comes from, it's where the blind eye to copyright issues comes from, it's where all the double-dealing and lying comes from. <BR/><BR/>I thought before that he was just a bit eccentric (Swimmy, ironing boards, etc) but but I just think: GOOD RIDDANCE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-85759312193868626902008-07-31T19:00:00.000-04:002008-07-31T19:00:00.000-04:00I would maybe get with the idea that the investors...I would maybe get with the idea that the investors are behind all the problems with Etsy except for two rather large examples that were both prior to the 27 million.<BR/><BR/>1) V2 rollout that took away more then it gave back and left many sellers ham stringed during the holiday shopping season.<BR/><BR/>2) 'The Constitution'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-39144106586656755382008-07-31T18:52:00.000-04:002008-07-31T18:52:00.000-04:00He faked a student ID at MIT, made it in art class...He faked a student ID at MIT, made it in art class, is that the ultimate DIY?<BR/>Who needs a real ID when you can make it yourself? Paying tuition and following laws is for suckers!<BR/>Rob's next DIY art project: counterfeiting. <BR/>Why bother to earn money when you can just make it yourself?eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-29816664568670763972008-07-31T18:39:00.000-04:002008-07-31T18:39:00.000-04:00Or is the site growing bigger, fatter, slower, dum...Or is the site growing bigger, fatter, slower, dumber because what $$$ wants in corporate America is growth, just growth, healthy or not in the long term.<BR/>____________<BR/><BR/>Nope. It's all Robs fault. He can't only be responsible for the brilliant stuff. The site itself is defective and I don't know about you, but when I am dealing with a defective item I blame the maker not the investors.Impetuoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610001567002716942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-21102486903253272702008-07-31T17:54:00.000-04:002008-07-31T17:54:00.000-04:00I guess I'm in the minority here because I doubt R...I guess I'm in the minority here because I doubt Rob's personal quirks, self-misrepresentation, or style have much to do with Etsy's departure IMO from the damn cool site it was when I first found it a few years ago.<BR/><BR/>Does anyone actually know (as in facts to back up opinion) that the devolution of Etsy into phoney hipsterism + silly girl estrogen overdose, wrapped up in cold corporate unfeeling customer dis-service + poor tech planning/execution is all/mostly Rob's doing -- against the wishes of the $27M investors?<BR/><BR/>Or is the site growing bigger, fatter, slower, dumber because what $$$ wants in corporate America is growth, just growth, healthy or not in the long term.<BR/><BR/>No, I don't find Rob's personality appealing myself, but that is not what changed for the worse at Etsy. Rob was there, like, from the beginning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-33164103892295709092008-07-31T16:54:00.000-04:002008-07-31T16:54:00.000-04:00Rob isn't odd, he's posing as odd (at least with t...Rob isn't odd, he's posing as odd (at least with the nail polish bit). True oddballs don't think to spill their oddities to the NY Times, because they don't consider what they do to be eccentric and odd. But Rob seems to need to proclaim it: "Look at me! I'm odd! I'm different! I'm indie!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com