tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post4467527004211192288..comments2023-05-31T07:37:38.948-04:00Comments on Etsy Bitch: He's Baaackkkkk...The Cranky Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08492132798002763761noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-61919689860949318112009-12-29T23:34:31.895-05:002009-12-29T23:34:31.895-05:00Yes, and the Etsy job descriptions are more pure b...Yes, and the Etsy job descriptions are more pure bullshit.<br /><br />Who the hell would take any of that seriously if they have one ounce of talent.<br /><br />It's so embarrassing.just bitchynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-4092002817741916772009-12-29T23:33:34.652-05:002009-12-29T23:33:34.652-05:00He just posted another thread.
It's all the s...He just posted another thread.<br /><br />It's all the same bullshit. They talk and talk and talk and he asks questions and asks more questions and then disappears and reaears and asks more questions and then nothing changes.<br /><br />SSDD<br /><br />Seriously, some of the changes have been asked for for years. Nearly from the beginning.<br /><br />I hope people don't get their hopes up. He's the same old dreamer with the same old schtick and the thought that there will be any follow through or anything other than the next Swimmy is just beyond common sense.just bitchynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-71565954496607065062009-12-29T22:33:05.350-05:002009-12-29T22:33:05.350-05:00http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=63...http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6388627<br /><br />he says here they are changing the tagline next month.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-74571244542307473542009-12-29T00:53:53.619-05:002009-12-29T00:53:53.619-05:00So I went and read some of the Etsy job descriptio...So I went and read some of the Etsy job descriptions posted at that site and had a good chuckle. Apparently, to work at Etsy, one must be "comfortable with occasional highjinks" and so on and so forth...who wrote these descriptions?!?! <br /><br />As someone who was with Etsy at the beginning, and ran screaming for the hills after about two years when things really started to get out of control, I know that I will never, ever be returning as a seller. The only time I sign in is once a month when I buy my soap from my favorite soap sellers. <br /><br />I don't understand why anyone who has the actual skill and means to make anything of quality would want anything to do with Etsy now. And from what I have seen and read, the majority of truly skilled artisans have left for other sites, started their own websites, or found other venues for their work.so done with etsy by nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-5890867461261545062009-12-28T07:55:55.169-05:002009-12-28T07:55:55.169-05:00I'd like to see Etsy's December profit rep...I'd like to see Etsy's December profit report and ask if anyone knows how to better interpret them - since Etsy doesn't break out the money they make from listings and showcase spots.<br /><br />I'd like to know if sellers are listing less since they're clearly no longer selling on Etsy. <br /><br />Then maybe someone can explain how sellers can sell well in 2008 and then see their sales drop 100% in 12 months of branding Etsy favorites.<br /><br />How does that happen? It's NOT ALL the economy.The Funny Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545537988530733607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-24269022177257224342009-12-26T23:57:08.901-05:002009-12-26T23:57:08.901-05:00Wouldn't it be NICE if the new old CEO came on...Wouldn't it be NICE if the new old CEO came on better educated about ART, CRAFT, and VINTAGE? Or At the VERY least, hire those who do??<br />And hire some damned DIVERSITY. I am not talking PC, I am talking about hiring people with tested expertise in fine craftsmanship, and expertise on vintage????? Hire a fucking consultant if you can't hire a full time SMART, EXPERIENCED, ARTISAN.<br />Stop hiring people off the street because somebody else tells you they are cool.<br />Get fuckin' professional, man, with the product!!<br />Do what GOOD managers do: hire knowledgeable, experienced people and see to it that they DO THEIR JOBS.<br />OR, you could continue to follow the Peter Principle.SHEESHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-92230637773603332092009-12-23T19:26:54.660-05:002009-12-23T19:26:54.660-05:00The vague references to "social commerce"...The vague references to "social commerce" is just fluffernutter for no-one-knows-what-works in online ecommerce, so you go with the trend, which is a big part of Etsy's problem. <br /><br />Etsy thinks it's so trendy, they don't have to pay attention to the actual marketplace. Shoppers turned off? Search stinks? The front page never looks any different?<br /><br />Shoppers lose interest, sellers who can't sell because Etsy has stacked the deck against them stop paying fees for nothing, and what do you have?<br /><br />Etsy the trend that's over. They're their own worst enemy.The Funny Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545537988530733607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-77294957845129459692009-12-23T18:01:55.925-05:002009-12-23T18:01:55.925-05:00theoriginalwtf said...
what on god's gree...theoriginalwtf said...<br /><br /> what on god's green earth???<br /><br /> aggggh, artfire, when are you going to come up with a nicer looking front page so you can REALLY give etsy a run for their money?<br /><br />This is a conundrum to me, 1,000Mkts. is a gorgeous looking wonderful site and it's going so slowly, artfire is doing a little better but it is a little cheesy looking. And I just read somewhere that Time magazine named etsy one of the 50 best websites for 2009! I just don't friggen get it! This is the first I've heard of the "board of directors", so maybe that will be a good thing, oh wait, didn't we all hope the same thing when Maria came onto the scene? Nevermind.grannygirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-68367691237172430612009-12-23T17:38:19.602-05:002009-12-23T17:38:19.602-05:00referencing TooOld's post near the end of this...referencing TooOld's post near the end of this long line of posts, I went to the link she posted and just for the fun of it clicked the salary amount at $70,000 a year (didn't try higher) and the Etsy jobs fell into that category.<br /><br />As I said I didn't look at any of the higher salaries, so there may have been more there.<br /><br />So to anyone who has the skills, I'd say you would do well to apply, cause even though the work is difficult, that salary shouldn't be scoffed at!<br /><br />As far as Rob being back at the helm, so to speak, I'm waiting to see just what he means about the "people approach, rather than the merchandise approach". <br /><br />Seems to me it's a bit of 'been there, done that', but he may put a new twist on it...we can only wait in the wings to see how the play unfolds.jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15289634303955683823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-61660673203622512572009-12-23T17:19:10.134-05:002009-12-23T17:19:10.134-05:001. Why do big etsy changes always come out of left...1. Why do big etsy changes always come out of left field, always with an arbitrary lame ass reasoning?<br /><br />2. With the end of the gift guides, what will happen to the 20 sellers who are constantly featured there? Will they have to rely only dork & twit shout outs? Or will that end for them too? Shucks, they'll be screwed like the rest of us!<br /><br />3. The new focus on people, not products - I believe this means sellers will be required to twitter & facebook and "etsy" will become a verb, etsy will become another social networking site aimed at craftards who sell to each other. It won't be a marketplace. (I don't know about you but I twitted for a year and all it ever got me were other etsy sellers adding to my view counts. It did nothing to help me, got me not one sale, and was a complete waste of my time). I'm an artisan. I make stuff. And I sell the stuff I make. But in 2009, not so much on etsy.<br /><br />4. Etsy is a corporation. A corporation is legally a person. But a corporation has no morality. It's only goal is profit. Them's the facts. To learn more, watch the documentary "the corporation." (lots on walmart in it too). It sheds a whole new light on where the etsy board & CEO's priorities are and will be.Headshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-23378890184121198992009-12-23T16:53:56.738-05:002009-12-23T16:53:56.738-05:00@Get out now...
"Social Commerce" is th...@Get out now...<br /><br />"Social Commerce" is the reason why "Pimpin' Ain't Easy!" (I got to get the most bang for this buck!)PaintedBullShop.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592585323935861995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-67899153650665596842009-12-23T14:26:12.469-05:002009-12-23T14:26:12.469-05:00I really don't know if it will be better or wo...I really don't know if it will be better or worse but I would love to see some damn variety instead of the same etsy sellers over and over again - the etsy elite! Etsy has sellers from all over the world but yet it is always the same old, same old mob!Kathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-26287825714816149282009-12-23T14:17:13.186-05:002009-12-23T14:17:13.186-05:00"I don't have people buying from me becau..."I don't have people buying from me because I'm me, I have them buying because I make good stuff. I'm not social - that's why I selll online!<br /><br />And now, unless the paranoia has really taken hold, we're moving from the etsy-acceptable product + pics to the etsy-acceptable personality.<br /><br />That's me screwed then!"<br /><br />That's what I'm worried about, too, Caethes. I have a hard time keeping up with all of that stuff, and I'm working on a better strategy for a new side of my business that will be much more online-focused than I am now. <br /><br />The benefit of something like Etsy is that there are customers that I don't have to go out and get. When a significant amoutn of time has to be spent bringing in customers, at what point is Etsy just not worth it because I could have my own online site?<br /><br />I also work full time. I can't spend all day doing "social commerce."Christennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-38724697034742953282009-12-23T14:08:53.162-05:002009-12-23T14:08:53.162-05:00Is it just me, or does his explanation for marketi...Is it just me, or does his explanation for marketing just sound like more of the same: individual sellers doing all the heavy lifting to get people onto the site.Feeling Cynicalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-6558836396148632162009-12-23T13:03:21.725-05:002009-12-23T13:03:21.725-05:00I realized I hadn't done any research on Union...I realized I hadn't done any research on Union Square Ventures so I went to do a little research on them. Highly suggest that, btw.<br /><br />Anyway... Might want to check these job openings at Etsy out. Make sure to read what they entail as well. A sign of what's to come? Hmmm. Or perhaps just a total shift in who will be working for Etsy next year? You decide. I just found it interesting as they were posted 6 days ago.<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/ycftkchToo Old...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-39703257865594463472009-12-23T11:27:53.645-05:002009-12-23T11:27:53.645-05:00Okay, let's try condensed soup.
My point is th...Okay, let's try condensed soup.<br />My point is that I have no real point of reference for Rob.<br />I would like to be optimistic... really, I mean that all around in all aspects of life — it sounds like a nice thing to be. I have yet to experience blind optimism, but it does sound appealing.<br /><br />Anyway, I know very little about him.<br />I've worked in retail for years. And there are kind of two tracks to "corporate" types. One is that they're entirely profit oriented and well, people's feelings and altruism be damned because it's all about the bottom line. The other is that the things that the do to make it all about the bottom line are often completely inept or not thought through because while they can work the left side of the brain and start at point A, go directly to point B, proceed to point C — they retardedly forget to look at the bigger picture.<br /><br />Branding is a corporate thing. It's great if you're an actual entity with a target demographic, etc. But etsy is theoretically trying to be everything — at least their tagline is. Their branding, however, was not. It was all cowls and owls and fucking mustaches on a stick and fucking taupe beige grey white off-white eggshell... and only shit that would appeal to slim 18-35 year old women.<br /><br />"Everything" (or "all things") is bigger than that; and their "branding" — you know, wannabe hipster fucktard — was very corporate in it's approach because it plowed over everything outside of it's scope.<br /><br />A specific branded identity with a narrow target demographic is the antithesis of "all things handmade" — which anyone who is anti-corporate in their methods could spot in a heartbeat.<br /><br />To me, the corporate part isn't the functional aspect of the business (cost, net, user-interface, etc) — it's the "branding". You know, the small group of people who had thousands of different products by thousands of people to pick from and continued to feature the same shit over and over and over again. That kind of favoritism and myopia is very corporate. It's also very damaging... especially when you want to be "all things".<br /><br />I'm not all for anarchy or regression. But I am totally for "unbranding" etsy.sarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-72820011382587597822009-12-23T05:01:07.861-05:002009-12-23T05:01:07.861-05:00Get Out Now - I think (and fear) you may be right....Get Out Now - I think (and fear) you may be right.<br /><br />Add in "We need to create a thousand more forums for people to talk (i.e. groups)..." and I guess we're supposed to sit around chatting all day, selling our pieces to each other in one great clusterfuck, and sod the idea of new customers coming in with fresh money.<br /><br />I don't have people buying from me because I'm me, I have them buying because I make good stuff. I'm not social - that's why I selll online!<br /><br />And now, unless the paranoia has really taken hold, we're moving from the etsy-acceptable product + pics to the etsy-acceptable personality.<br /><br />That's me screwed then!Caetheshttp://www.boutonnerie.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-77690253506781226982009-12-23T00:14:15.833-05:002009-12-23T00:14:15.833-05:00I have to laugh at the naivete of some of the peop...I have to laugh at the naivete of some of the people asking Rob questions like if Etsy is now going to start advertising the site. Heehee, little do they realize that he has never supported anything but 'grassroots' advertising, meaning viral marketing and social networking. None of this paid ads stuff. He used the term "social commerce", which leads me to believe that it will contain more of the same seller generated efforts at advertising, especially when reading this quote "In social commerce, our focus is on people, not products. It's our job to build tools for you to use, that help you promote items as you'd like to."<br /><br />Meaning, to me, especially with the mention of revamping the showcases and getting rid of the gift guides, another way for Etsians to pay for their exposure and generate their own traffic.<br /><br />And although Rob said very early on that there would never be paid advertising on the front page, I think we're going to come very, very close to it.<br /><br />'m very cautious in what I expect to see as far as changes that might be on the horizon, and for those who think that having Rob back at the helm means getting back to his original vision, just remember that vision almost got rid of commercial supplies and vintage on this site.<br /><br />I have nothing against Rob, he's going to do what he has to do to keep the company going. I would imagine that will entail making some people happy, and others, not so much. It will be what it will be.WindysDesignshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763465841442652702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-40877495458632806552009-12-22T21:24:05.455-05:002009-12-22T21:24:05.455-05:00Yeah, right, didn't Rokali invent the stupid &...Yeah, right, didn't Rokali invent the stupid "Post Your Questions Here" forum thread joke that used to pop up once every 6 months so he could completely ignore the actual questions? And appear to be involved? <br /><br />Total bullshit adopted by a dozen Admins who haven't been listening since they took up residence at Etsy. <br /><br />Gee Etsy, what about?<br />- insecure shopping cart that breeds NPB's by the thousands?<br />- a listing template that belongs in the middle ages<br />- no universal editing or coupon codes<br />- NO CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR SELLERS???? to name a fraction of the seller requests, some of them are 4 years old!!!<br /><br />You can post all the Announcements, edicts, proclamations and anything else you are suddenly in the mood for ---- but if you don't sweep out the deadwood Admins who have a stranglehold on the narrow minded promotion scheme of picking their favorites day after day, you aren't going to improve a damn thing.<br /><br />Getting rid of 72 GG's doesn't even skim the surface of the real problems at Etsy.The Funny Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545537988530733607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-22608284896874113592009-12-22T21:22:24.866-05:002009-12-22T21:22:24.866-05:00And can someone explain "Social Commerce"...And can someone explain "Social Commerce" to me...it sounds like some kind of STD...PaintedBullShop.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592585323935861995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-72311256112288183182009-12-22T20:39:36.468-05:002009-12-22T20:39:36.468-05:00Indigo said...
I want to find out the back st...Indigo said...<br /><br /> I want to find out the back story about the Etsy 5, I'm intrigued as it has been banded about the forums by the older members...I wish I had someone to ask LOL!<br />------------------<br />There is an article here at EB that explains it. Summer or Fall 2008 I think.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-60123776846240046022009-12-22T19:57:38.900-05:002009-12-22T19:57:38.900-05:00AnotherTypeofBiotch said...
Hmm....weird that...AnotherTypeofBiotch said...<br /><br /> Hmm....weird that I was recently thinking about that kid and wondering what he was doing since leaving Etsy? And why would you leave the very place you created?? <br />--------------------<br /><br />It's quite normal for founders to leave a startup, this is called an 'exit' and it's generally the goal for most startups - sell out big, enjoy your money and start another business. I'm pretty sure Etsy wanted to sell out last year and instead had to settle for the round C investment from Accel.<br /><br />------------<br />Too old.... said...<br /><br /> Ding! Ding! Ding! Wish more people would realize this. Why do you think we can't delete expired items?! And, don't say it's because of coding.<br />--------------------<br /><br />There's not reason they can't let us delete expired items and they keep them in the database, actually. It's called a 'soft delete', meaning they set a 'deleted' flag on the item and it would still be in the database, but not be displayed. Have you noticed they keep all the images for each item even after it's deleted, also?Sandwichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-84067321547515193542009-12-22T19:30:42.411-05:002009-12-22T19:30:42.411-05:00He's now answering questions and the gift guid...He's now answering questions and the gift guides are going. Hooray for that, but I'm terrified of what this whole social commerce crap is. I'm not selling myself. I'm selling my products. My spin is myself though. <br /><br />It has to be a combination of retail marketing, advertising, and social media. Not one or the other, but all three.Get out now...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-74242467308222859912009-12-22T19:24:07.044-05:002009-12-22T19:24:07.044-05:00Best news? Rob wants to shitcan the Gift Guides.
...Best news? Rob wants to shitcan the Gift Guides.<br /><br />http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6384233The Dangerous Mezzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08431535159253974395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-67048045340575980322009-12-22T19:12:54.815-05:002009-12-22T19:12:54.815-05:00If Rob wants to focus on less admin-curated-in-you...If Rob wants to focus on less admin-curated-in-your-face-Etsy-approved products, he's welcome back. Nobody needs to be on the front page 6 times in 24 fucking hours.needchangenoreply@blogger.com