tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post3492621076924393138..comments2023-05-31T07:37:38.948-04:00Comments on Etsy Bitch: Awards for the ValorousThe Cranky Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08492132798002763761noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-31581414996895526872008-08-12T14:18:00.000-04:002008-08-12T14:18:00.000-04:00I want my EstyBitch overlay. I earned it. But I do...I want my EstyBitch overlay. I earned it. But I don't know how, even tho I followed the link.<BR/>Is this like posting a lame question in the forums? It sounds like it, I know.<BR/>Imagine how hard it is for me to work my own website with this level of 'expertise'. If anyone wants to help me, they can email or convo me.....<BR/><BR/>MorganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-46146251444275705572008-06-20T23:54:00.000-04:002008-06-20T23:54:00.000-04:00http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=55...http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5564076&page=7<BR/><BR/>trippy...windy did you ask to be banned? say it isn't so... you will be missed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-22717429351831278382008-06-19T22:55:00.000-04:002008-06-19T22:55:00.000-04:00It's interesting they are now saying that people a...It's interesting they are now saying that people are muted "indefinitely".<BR/>When I and the other Etsy 5 were muted, they used the word "permanently". Despite the finality of that word, I never gave up hope and never stopped trying to get a fair hearing, which eventually I did get. The word "indefinitely" somehow feels a bit more hopeful. I hope this means there is some appeals process for Windys, and I hope she doesn't have to wait 8 months to get justice.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-42086630891657117372008-06-19T19:43:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:43:00.000-04:00Etsy has always had a policy of disciplinary actio...Etsy has always had a policy of disciplinary action for people who speak out against them. <BR/><BR/>just before the first set of forum etiquette guidelines were introduced (April 2007) i was warned for being sarcastic about etsy in a forum post (and subsequently muted and threatened with banning for publicising the email with my warning and reasoning behind it). <BR/><BR/>since then, Etsy has always maintained that they will not punish people who are critical of the site<BR/><BR/>ho bloody hopomomamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08338550638937829078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-14250837200694415132008-06-19T17:44:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:44:00.000-04:00Yeah, her stick is probably made of cardboard and ...Yeah, her stick is probably made of cardboard and has felted swimmys all over itwristeronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472289790210216527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-39815222946349119642008-06-19T17:15:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:15:00.000-04:00Awww. Mary's speaking softly but carrying a BIG A...Awww. Mary's speaking softly but carrying a BIG ASS STICK! How hip! How groundbreaking!Ladies Auxilliaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08988744862218318162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-74140400332447649182008-06-19T15:57:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:57:00.000-04:00Yet another intelligent critic of etsy, silenced.Yet another intelligent critic of etsy, silenced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-91514835022827243032008-06-19T15:08:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:08:00.000-04:00I have hesitated to re-open my Etsy shop since my ...I have hesitated to re-open my Etsy shop since my 8 month hiatus after I was falsely accused and then hastily perma-banned with absolutely no reason except " disrupting the community ". <BR/><BR/> I am waiting for Etsy to show me a few reasons that it would be "FUN" again to sell on Etsy. <BR/><BR/> I hardly post in the forums, even though I now can.<BR/><BR/> Members I could name can bash other members REPEATEDLY and might SOMETIMES get a slap on the hand, but don't you ever dare to speak out against Etsy or you will be Perma-banned !!! :P<BR/><BR/> Etsy just keeps giving me more and more reason NOT to re-open my shop. <BR/> As Etsy keeps removing and silencing all the intelligent and fun people, the forums have devolved into crude, rude, nasty and desperate for attention threads that turn my stomach even more than Rokali does :P~B.Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13616217894091286837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-60244229918686837882008-06-19T14:01:00.000-04:002008-06-19T14:01:00.000-04:00I didn't say he was a saint. My point was the he, ...I didn't say he was a saint. My point was the he, matt and stella are the ONLY etsy people who seems to have any idea how to deal with people in a customer service situation.<BR/><BR/>He's employed by etsy so yes, he does have to abide by the etsy system and work within their fucked up framework. He does it well.<BR/><BR/>The whole system needs major fixing from the ground up. At least three of their employees aren't condescending, mean, spiteful, vengeful and inept.<BR/><BR/>If they could find more employees who have a clue what they are doing etsy might get fixed. They could also provide training to the employees they already have. But right now it's 57-3 and that's not good odds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-77175302141792689822008-06-19T12:35:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:35:00.000-04:00Rob White is no saint. He might have more patience...Rob White is no saint. He might have more patience than that bitch Mary and he may write eloquent thread closing posts but don't forget that he is a big part of the "internal community" and when people are banned from the forums, it is with his approval as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-54350678579610103002008-06-19T11:24:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:24:00.000-04:00Wait....what?------------------"When I spoke earli...Wait....what?<BR/>------------------<BR/><BR/>"When I spoke earlier about internal policy, I was speaking about the rules we follow together as a company internally when given rules from the published guidelines are broken. We have an internal policy to keep our decisions consistent and fair across the board when making any sort of consequential actions. The reason I even mention the fact that we follow an internal policy at all is to clear up the speculation and misconceptions that we do not follow any rules when it comes to any form of consequences for forum behaviors. We have the policy to hold ourselves accountable and we take great care in any sort of decisions that are made."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-84537801984862001142008-06-19T11:13:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:13:00.000-04:00As I watch this unfold I have to say again that ro...As I watch this unfold I have to say again that robwhite is a gem.<BR/><BR/>Some people are suited to customer service and some are not.<BR/><BR/>Robwhite has the right temperament and a healthy dose of humility, doesn't let his ego get in the way and is gracious, understanding and empathetic. He communicates clearly and I never doubt that his intentions are good even if I disagree with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-85611862076473504662008-06-19T10:10:00.000-04:002008-06-19T10:10:00.000-04:00I'm getting pretty nauseated with MaryMary's, "We'...I'm getting pretty nauseated with MaryMary's, "We're listening to you, we really, truly, honest-to-goodness, supercalafraja are" posts.<BR/><BR/>They threw hurricane DXO in there for a spell so she could seek and destroy....mainly the latter. Then they go to the other extreme and it's a barrage of lovey-dovey posts that are all talk and no action.<BR/><BR/>Next thing, it's another banning because someone was too ballsy for their taste.<BR/><BR/>Etsy, you both suck and blow.jodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16172250527011569072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-23805117453073286572008-06-19T09:18:00.000-04:002008-06-19T09:18:00.000-04:00Adama Selene -Here you go . . . http://snipurl.com...Adama Selene -<BR/>Here you go . . . http://snipurl.com/2l3aowendyveehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238222405786818965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-19272618567661726942008-06-19T08:09:00.000-04:002008-06-19T08:09:00.000-04:00Can someone give a link to the thread where MaryMa...Can someone give a link to the thread where MaryMary said this:<BR/><BR/>"When I spoke earlier about internal policy, I was speaking about the rules we follow together as a company internally when given rules from the published guidelines are broken. We have an internal policy to keep our decisions consistent and fair across the board when making any sort of consequential actions. The reason I even mention the fact that we follow an internal policy at all is to clear up the speculation and misconceptions that we do not follow any rules when it comes to any form of consequences for forum behaviors. We have the policy to hold ourselves accountable and we take great care in any sort of decisions that are made."<BR/><BR/>It of course doesn't show up in the forum search since it must have been closed - damn I hate that sneaky bit of censorship that Etsy thinks is so clever and denies is censorship at all.<BR/><BR/>I didn't see it on ClosedThreads yet or maybe I just missed it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-63737119880893366962008-06-19T07:24:00.000-04:002008-06-19T07:24:00.000-04:00"I love how artisan is all for banning people who ..."I love how artisan is all for banning people who are rude and disrespectful considering he is extremely rude in 90% of the posts he makes."<BR/>_______________________________<BR/><BR/>OMG, he is the biggest freaking tool!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-11056570735760347572008-06-19T07:20:00.000-04:002008-06-19T07:20:00.000-04:00"To quote an oft used forum refrain:"Wow, just wow..."To quote an oft used forum refrain:<BR/><BR/>"Wow, just wow!""<BR/>________________________<BR/><BR/>I do tend to use that often in the forum, yes. So often it is just... so fitting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-56878977139180707122008-06-19T05:53:00.000-04:002008-06-19T05:53:00.000-04:00Simone says: Quite apart from the ethical side of ...Simone says: <BR/>Quite apart from the ethical side of it, it's also horrendously bad in PR terms to do something like that to someone who is critical of the organisation.<BR/>____________________________<BR/><BR/>I couldn't agree more. I have much more respect for companies that allow their critics to speak freely. Of course, these same companies probably have ironclad (published) policies and rules, and excellent customer service, so they know that their good track record is a solid leg to stand on.<BR/><BR/>I'm a (relatively) intelligent adult, and I like to hear BOTH sides of the story so that I can make my own decisions. Not watered-down, giggly PR fluff. <BR/><BR/>When Etsy silences a critic, it says much more about Etsy than it does about the person criticizing the company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-71910416099177850942008-06-19T04:49:00.000-04:002008-06-19T04:49:00.000-04:00Windy's was a vocal critic of Etsy. But Etsy says ...Windy's was a vocal critic of Etsy. But Etsy says they do not punish people for criticizing Etsy. They say criticism is allowed. So if we beleive that, then we must look for another reason Windy's got banned. Hmmm, what could it be?<BR/>Oh that's right. She said a naughty word. tsk tsk.<BR/>surely she must be the only one to ever utter that word?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.etsy.com/forums_search.php?search_type=forum_thread&search_query=bullshit" REL="nofollow">Forums search results for bullshit (789) matches</A><BR/>and that's just the UNlocked threads!<BR/><BR/>so if Etsy is fair and consistent, then all 789 of these resulted in permanent forum mutings?<BR/>Right?<BR/>No, because that would be insane. You can't ban 789 people for such a stupid reason. But then why can you ban even one person for such a stupid reason? Oh, because this time they said it to an admin. And people are allowed to say bullshit to other users, but not to admins.<BR/> Permanently banning someone just because they said "bullshit" is ridiculous. Temporary muting, yeah, I can accept that. Maybe it's over the line, but it's not serious enough for permanent muting. Is there anyone who beleives Etsy would permanently ban you just for saying bullshit to another member? You might get a warning, at worst. But say it to an admin and suddenly it's a hanging offense! <BR/>It should not matter who you say a word to, and people should not be punished more harshly when an admin is involved.eclipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182315716049100221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-21321851726179099882008-06-19T03:57:00.000-04:002008-06-19T03:57:00.000-04:00I always feel like when a thread gets too heated, ...I always feel like when a thread gets too heated, Etsy sends in a mole to call someone out, or break a rule, so they can lock the thread and shut everyone up. But I'm suspicious like that.<BR/><BR/>Windy got muted because she was stirring a notion. She was gaining ground, and people were starting to notice. Out here, we call her a truth movement leader. In there, they call her TROUBLE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-68471911736053077522008-06-19T03:31:00.000-04:002008-06-19T03:31:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.goofyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01214401866072445037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-14816094129900965392008-06-19T02:57:00.000-04:002008-06-19T02:57:00.000-04:00"We have the policy to hold ourselves accountable"..."We have the policy to hold ourselves accountable"<BR/><BR/>Gag me. No, clear the room! I'm about to vomit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-43551361875616383382008-06-19T02:54:00.000-04:002008-06-19T02:54:00.000-04:00"When I spoke earlier about internal policy, I was..."When I spoke earlier about internal policy, I was speaking about the rules we follow together as a company internally when given rules from the published guidelines are broken. We have an internal policy to keep our decisions consistent and fair across the board when making any sort of consequential actions. The reason I even mention the fact that we follow an internal policy at all is to clear up the speculation and misconceptions that we do not follow any rules when it comes to any form of consequences for forum behaviors. We have the policy to hold ourselves accountable and we take great care in any sort of decisions that are made."<BR/><BR/>What a load of crap! Anyone need to fertilize their garden?<BR/><BR/>Yes, Marymary, quite ordinary, YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP. <BR/><BR/>If you were smarter you would have had the good sense to be embarrassed when you typed that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-32670901524787302642008-06-19T02:51:00.000-04:002008-06-19T02:51:00.000-04:00Ok- so now it's gotten ugly - Windy's was the real...Ok- so now it's gotten ugly - Windy's was the real life and truth on esty. I laughed and learned as a result of her posts - isn't that was it's spoz to be all about? <BR/><BR/>Windy's - if you're out there - your talents are wasted on a silly site, you could be the next Ralph Nader of ecommerce! I am for the first time truly emotional via etsy - not as a result of all the silly x's and o's (strangely now missing from many of admins' posts) but because it won't ever be the same without you. I'll never watch the "Grinch" without thinking of you again. Here's a double to you - may your heart grow two sizes tonight....:)<BR/><BR/>and if you haven't been muted .. let's share a slice of the roast beast.Charlotte Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10973572991772942341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286747608538901945.post-46096443732715701402008-06-19T01:28:00.000-04:002008-06-19T01:28:00.000-04:00I think RD is a huge hairy asshat. There, I said i...I think RD is a huge hairy asshat. <BR/>There, I said it.<BR/><BR/>He needs a full body shave and I stand by that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com